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Jun142011

Your staff are your best advocates

I recently completed a chapter in a book on social media to be published next year (no not mine - another one) and I called it "Your staff are your best advocates". Hugh McLeod just re-blogged this post from 2005 on the same topic, and Steve Bridger just said in a Twitter conversation that he got a good response to saying " loyalty to charity brands is now shifting towards affinity to individuals working within charities" in a keynote yesterday.

We are gradually groping our way towards the Cluetrain idea of markets being conversations but it is still a long way off and "brand" still mostly means orchestrated bollocks.

I am a mentor at The School of Communication Arts, run by Marc Lewis, which aims to develop new talent for the marketing business. I have done a few mentoring sessions and really enjoyed meeting and getting to know the students. However I have been feeling increasingly uncomfortable about being involved, even marginally, with an activity that I find increasingly annoying.

When I called Marc to share these feelings we had a pretty robust exchange of views on marketing and its place in the modern world. We then had round two of this argument in a session in front of the students at the school last week. I said that I had no problem with advertising as such. I am happy being helped to make decisions about buying stuff. I will always buy stuff and ways of making better decisions about what to buy are always welcome. But this is a million miles away from being shouted at about crap I don't want when I am trying to do something else - no matter how entertainingly it is done. There were one or two students nodding as I made my case but most were pretty full on that we "need" marketing to fund content, entertain us in magazines, and smarten up Times Square!

Roll on the day when marketing retires into the background and I can have real conversations, with real people, in real businesses, who are doing stuff that makes my life better.

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    Euan has a go at the mindlessness of most of what passes for marketing these days. I confess I'm pretty much a grumpy old man about it myself, grumbling and sometimes shouting at many of the ads on the TV...

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Thanks for the mention :)

Yup, I encourage membership associations (in particular) that they are 'marketing' conversations, not products and services. Members will buy the latter (provided they are any good) as a consequence of their engagement.

June 14, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bridger

"loyalty to charity brands is now shifting towards affinity to individuals working within charities" - I have always found this to be the case, and not just with charities but any orgnaisations. I always judge an organisation by the quality of the real interactions I have with it. The packaging may look good but it's what's inside the box that really matters. If this does not match up with the brand promise, game over. In the long run, authentic staff advocacy is far more powerful than any contrived advertising or marketing campaign.

June 14, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJon

I took part in an big staff event for O2 recently as an informed customer doing a "chat" on stage with the CEO . I told the story of how I wanted to hate them when they left me without broadband for 23 days but how the standard of the people I dealt with, and the way they consistently treated me like a grown up, meant more even than the cock up.

June 14, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterEuan

Our staff are great advocates for our online events, but the best advocates are actually our customers. Not only do they speak eloquently and passionately about what we do, they also do it with far more authenticity than we possibly could. At a recent conference I shared a platform with one of our participating teachers and what he said about the event blew me and the audience away so much that I wanted him to carry on through my allotted time.

June 14, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterShane McCracken

Five years ago, Doc Searles, who came up with the "markets are conversations" meme, said he'd made a mistake. Conversations are the surface of something deeper. He changed the formula to "markets are relationships."

So if we have a great conversation but you screw up the relationship, we're done. I find it a more useful proposition.

June 21, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJay Cross

Bit like worrying about the word social though. It's all about relationships whichever words we use. Only one "e" in Searls btw

:-)

June 21, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterEuan

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